Project:Requests for deletion/Requests/2025/Nautica Malone
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further changes should be made to this discussion.
The outcome of this request for deletion was to File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. After review of the arguments, the comments for keeping the article mostly had to do with the news stories and publicity related to the death of the person, rather than any Wikipedia guideline. On the other hand, many of the comments supporting deletion provided valid policy and guideline-based arguments on why the article should be deleted. This deletion applies to the subject of the article, his death, and any other closely related subjects. If, in the future, there are valid reasons per Wikipedia guidelines to restore the article, a deletion review should be opened. Best, -Griff (talk) 15:45, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
Nautica Malone[change]
- Nautica Malone (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request
BigKrow has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Notability, i know there are sources but doesn't seem encyclopedic enough. Thank you. BigKrow (talk) 22:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.
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- Want to share that this recently published Vice Article "Is Porn Destroying Us?" discussed Malone and that is what led me to this Wikipedia.
- Alas, Google results for Nautica Malone are populated by news of his death - with or without the wiki article.
- With the long term effects of pornography and gooning unknown, Malone is a subject of impacts from gooning, pornography and masturbation.
- The Wikipedia article for Malone is about the incident of his death as it seems this is what he is most known for.
- Personally, not sure if I'd vote for or against but would like to contribute to the discussion. Blueishbeaver (talk) 23:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: This comment is the user's only edit on this wiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:47, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- This article needs to stay up because it highlights how porn can truly affect the human psyche. 2601:406:4200:3F90:7DE9:9C08:B528:F8BA (talk) 07:05, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: This comment is the IP's only edit on this wiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:47, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- wp articles dont get published because they're lessons to be learned. nearly every non-notable event can be taken as a lesson in some way TSF.Wikipedia 14:28, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete. This meets the general notability guideline, but per en:Wikipedia:Notability (events), neither the person nor his suicide has any lasting historical significance. 205.154.244.130 (talk) 23:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- This article is imperative for people to understand how the internet and its communities has led to people committing suicide. Chlpr (talk) 19:34, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: This comment is the user's only edit on this wiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:49, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Get off my SCHMEAT 134.173.108.190 (talk) 18:49, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- I strongly agree with your statement about the importance of this article. I understand that the subject matter of this article may be sensitive, but it is integral to create a place where uncomfortable topics can be shared in order for people to better grasp the dangers of engaging in public indecency. 一樣月光 (talk) 19:06, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- that isn't what wikipedia is for though, this doesn't make it notable. once again, every small non-notable daily occurrence can teach a lesson TSF.Wikipedia 14:29, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: This comment is the user's only edit on this wiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:49, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete It's interesting that most of the sources in the article are outside of the country where this event happened. A suicide, while tragic, if generally not going to be notable by itself. There's clearly been some trolling around this, and probably some nonsense from various forums that delight in mocking others. w:WP:ONEEVENT has some excellent advice that's relevant here and supports deleting the article. Ravensfire (talk) 02:00, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- The article on enwiki went through the AFD process there w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suicide of Nautica Malone where it was quickly closed as deleted for both the large number of delete comments as well as "serious WP:BLP (w:WP:BDP, w:WP:BLPCRIME, WP:BIO1E) concerns alongside blatant w:WP:NOTNEWS failures Ravensfire (talk) 23:04, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- we need this article to stay because this tragedy has made a great impact on the social and online culture of many people, destroying this article would be destroying my culture... RIP Nautica Malone, fly high goon lord. <3 xoxoxoxo Dasaggyballsman (talk) 16:29, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Regardless of the intent behind its creation, the page presents factual details that could be relevant in discussions about pornography abuse/addiction, its impact on individuals, and how these cases are perceived in media and society. FakeFrosty (talk) 03:40, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: This comment is the user's only edit on this wiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:49, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep what FakeFrosty said Rorr404 (talk) 18:49, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete This article most probably falls under WP:VICTIM.Pot2156 (talk) 08:45, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. its notable all the sources are reliable and i think the article should be up. ripgooner (talk) 10:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol comment vote.svg Comment: Username suggests they are a one-purpose-only or possibly a vandalism-only account. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 23:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: This user's only edits on this wiki have been to this RFD and the article it discusses. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:51, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- thank you ripgooner, very cool TSF.Wikipedia 14:30, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep It should be kept if notable or not notable that how it is effecting the people mind --Ksy 19:34, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- I request the article should be also improved --Ksy 19:34, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per en:WP:VICTIM. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 23:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- I want to add that this man is not notable per en:WP:BLP1E. Many criminals killed themselves out of shame or fear of repercussion, it's nothing new or special. The only difference is that it usually happens behind the bars, so you don't see it and it doesn't make it to the news. Not notable at all, just a target for trolls and such. Also, there's a clear canvassing problem here. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 23:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- This. Exactly this. There's a push here for memes and some troll boards and it's why en wiki closed their deletion discussion several days ago to avoid feeding the trolls. They're now getting fat and happy with the mess here. Ravensfire (talk) 23:52, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- I also want to add that this is recentism. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 10:27, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- I want to add that this man is not notable per en:WP:BLP1E. Many criminals killed themselves out of shame or fear of repercussion, it's nothing new or special. The only difference is that it usually happens behind the bars, so you don't see it and it doesn't make it to the news. Not notable at all, just a target for trolls and such. Also, there's a clear canvassing problem here. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 23:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep I'll be honest, the article serves as an example that bad people will reap what they sow. --MrCarter-M (talk) 12:08, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: This comment is the user's only edit on this wiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:52, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a place for people to be taught examples of what happens someone mentally ill decides to jork it at a bikini café drive-thru TSF.Wikipedia 14:27, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol comment vote.svg Comment: "Nautica Malone" was by far the most viewed article and the second most viewed page on Simple English Wikipedia yesterday, with 11,745 pageviews, only slightly behind Main Page. 192.83.149.205 (talk) 20:23, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Per Dream Indigo. ⯎ Asteralee ⯎ 20:25, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol comment vote.svg Comment: There is currently an off-wiki thread to raid this RfD. --Leonidlednev (talk) 08:42, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Leonidlednev where? Cactus🌵 spiky ツ 08:43, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- An imageboard that is obsessed with soyjaks. --Leonidlednev (talk) 08:48, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Which is? The link? Cactus🌵 spiky ツ 08:50, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- The users of that imageboard harass others, so it is best not to put the link out here. --Leonidlednev (talk) 08:55, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- oh god is it the party CharmanderTheDev (talk) 15:16, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Which is? The link? Cactus🌵 spiky ツ 08:50, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- An imageboard that is obsessed with soyjaks. --Leonidlednev (talk) 08:48, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Twitter and other social media is a lot worse. MrCarter-M (talk) 11:04, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Leonidlednev where? Cactus🌵 spiky ツ 08:43, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep We've got articles for other seeming viral nonsense, considering this was a genuine living person with some pretty uncommon circumstances and temporary vitality/notoriety, it seems worth cataloging. The guy's been all over news sites for this cycle, hence the sources. CharmanderTheDev (talk) 15:15, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: This user's only edits here have been to this RFD. -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:53, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep The article meets the WP:NOTE requirements. It can be improved if flawed. Deletion is not always the solution. Steven1991 (talk) 04:17, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep same as Steven1991 CassiJevenn (talk) 22:42, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete This article should be deleted because it fails multiple core Wikipedia policies. Malone is only notable for his public suicide, which violates WP:BIO1E and WP:NOTNEWS—Wikipedia isn’t the place to document single, tragic events, especially when there’s no lasting significance beyond the news cycle. Reliable, independent coverage about Malone’s life outside this one event is also nonexistent, making the article heavily reliant on questionable sources like TMZ and Twitter. On top of that, this page has clearly become a target for trolling and mockery, as seen here and in the English Wikipedia discussion, where it was already deleted. Keeping it risks further harm to his family and contradicts WP:CRIME and WP:NOTHARASS. Arguments for keeping the article because of its relevance to internet culture or pornography are speculative at best—those topics can be addressed without sensationalizing someone’s death. Overall, this article doesn’t meet notability standards, it perpetuates trolling, and it lacks encyclopedic value. Deletion is the best move here.. LJF2019 (talk) 03:31, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete fails notability for a single event. As an aside there is confirmed sock puppetry and probable meat puppetry going on on this page. fr33kman 02:58, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed BigKrow (talk) 13:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- KEEP We need to educate ourselves on the goon lord in order to better understand what could drive someone to do that, the argument that because this was the only thing he accomplished in his life and as such we should not keep the wiki page is flawed because many people have only contributed to the world in one way before dying. The fact that this was a significant cultural event makes the argument to keep even stronger. Many people have only done one significant thing in their life and have gotten recognized for it, and in this day and age with the internet more and more people are seeing the goon lord, so it is important to recognize these events to prevent them from happening in the future.
- ICANTGOON 207.235.150.241 (talk) 18:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- File:Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Looking at WP:CRIM, this definitely does not meet any of the requirements - memes die out all the time, and this is nowhere near notable enough, nor has he been documented anywhere near enough outside of this one specific event. Plus, it fails WP:NOTHARASS, WP:NOTNEWS, and several other WP standards. Until the day that he is used as an emblem for mental health awareness for hyper-sexuality, or the effects of pornography, or something of that nature, delete. Goon in peace, Nautica. (guys why isnt my signature signing properly or is that just on my screen) TSF.Wikipedia 14:24, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
This request is due to close on 22:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.
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