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The outcome of this request for deletion was to File:Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Peterdownunder (talk) 12:20, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Yoshie Akiba[change]

Yoshie Akiba (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Ferien has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Appears to be a case of WP:BLP1E --Ferien (talk) 10:18, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.

Discussion[change]

  • File:Symbol comment vote.svg Comment: I wrote about the kanji description in the article's edit summary, but I'll also leave notes at here for record. The kanji description seems to be 秋葉好江 (per https://globe.asahi.com/article/14354054, Asahi Shinbun article). Although search results by kanji form shows many blog posts rather than reliable sources. MathXplore (talk) 15:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep -- Thank you for bringing this article to my attention (and MathXplore (talk, thank you for the Kanji for her name and the Asahi Shinbun mention, which further demonstrates again her international stature). It looks like MathXlpore and I tried commenting at the same time and so I'll try again:

Ferien (talk), thank you for bringing this page to my attention. It looks like the Pandemic interrupted my checing on this students' work and refocused my own teaching efforts. I spent this morning updating the article and hope it better demonstrates notability for Akiba.

The year this article was started we had students focusing on notable women in the San Francisco Bay Area, where we live. Although our school is located more than an hour from Yoshi's, it is an iconic and notable institution throughout our greater region, as Akiba is an iconic and notable person. (As is also demonstarted, I believe, by the local but geographically diverse set of sources that focus on her and her work in education, advocacy, and promotion of jazz and Japanese culture.) Furthermore, as several sources that I used to start building out her page this morning indicate, her work has been influential in bringing and maintainting interest in jazz to the West Coast of the United States.

I spent some time contemplating whether the article really should have been about Yoshi's (as it is on ENG), but Akiba is recognized for work that goes beyond just her club, both in the world of jazz and the world of Japanese cultural outreach. The fact that so many jazz legends show up for her (whether it is Oscar Peterson describing Yoshi's as "the best club that I've played," Shiela E partnering with her on the mission of Elevate Oakland, or Stevie Wonder and George Lopez stepping up during the Pandemic to help keep Elevate Oakland's work going) is one demonstration of how the broad span of her life's works have been important to many artists -- not to mention the countless children and other individuals impacted by the community centers, educational programs, and performance venues she has created.

The focus of our annual Wikipedia project with students is for them to have a hands-on demonstration of the importance of participation to get notable stories told. We work on the idea that "authority is constructed" and (as WomeninRed notes over on ENG) that the structures and gatekeepers of information creation can make it hard to prove the notability of non-male and/or non-White individuals. Akiba is an excellent example of this issue -- as an older, Japanese-born woman, she is less likely to be celebrated and documented in the way that people of other identities (especially men) might be for her work in Jazz circles. That is specifically why we take the precious classroom time and make the concerted effort to pull together the documentation exists and that proves the case. Hopefully, the source materials I added this morning will clarify her notability.

I look forward to watching her page grow over time.

Thank you, Castilibrary2 (talk) 16:24, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep Not a single event, but a long and influential career. Article needs a lot of work, but that is not reason for RfD. --Gotanda (talk) 21:58, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 10:18, 25 September 2022 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


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