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SwirlBoy39[change]

SwirlBoy39 (talk · contribs)
Earlier RFAs: 1 2

End date: August 6th, 2008

Result - candidate withdrew (11 support and 10 oppose). --Gwib -(talk)- 16:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi fellow Community! My name is SwirlBoy39. I am here today to nominate myself to be an admin because the tools would be useful to me. I've been editing Simple since early February and have approximately 1000+ edits. The ability to block disruptive users and delete pages would be very helpful for me. I am on a lot at night when no admins are around. If any vandalism pops up I could easily help out with no stress. So please consider me to be Simple's next admin. Thank you for your time. SwirlBoy39 21:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Co-nomination: I would like to co-nominate Swirlboy39; there has been visible progress in his edits (which now focus more on imporving pages and reverting bad changes/fixing things). I think he will make a good admin, given the usual time to learn how to use the tools. --Eptalon (talk) 22:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Candidate's acceptance: Self-nomination. Thank you all for your kind votes. I have realized that I am not yet a suitable admin. I am going to work hard on pushing my mainspace count up a lot higher for one thing. Also, I will continue my vandal fighting (even though not many are around) and increase my edits to WP:VIP. I also hope to mature more in this process. Those are just some of the things I plan to do while attempting to increase my activity too. Thank you so much. SwirlBoy39 16:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Support[change]

  1. File:Symbol support vote.svg Support- see above --Eptalon (talk) 22:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  2. File:Symbol support vote.svg Support- Teh candidate will make teh osom admin. Sorry, I'm used to being in IRC. Sebb Talk 22:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  3. File:Symbol support vote.svg Support Great user! (by the way, we speak English on IRC, not "lolcat" ^_^) Majorly talk 22:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment I can speak teh lolcat wherever i's want :D Sebb Talk 10:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
  4. File:Symbol support vote.svg Support - I'm not 100% about you, you do seem a bit eager and only semi-active. But, I'm willing to give you a shot. I pretty much fully trust you not to abuse the tools. I'm going to support you, I doubt that you'll be the perfect admin, but as I learned, it gets easier after a while. All my contact with you has been pleasant, I trust you, and I'm sure you will not abuse the tools, so I will entrust you will my support. -- American Eagle (talk) 23:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  5. File:Symbol partial support vote.svg Weak support - Lots of progress made. I hope you become more active, as a recall may be called for your admin status. (if you are promoted) If not, you should still be more active. Chenzw  Talk  10:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  6. File:Symbol support vote.svg Support While the opposes do have good points, SwirlBoy39 has made good contributions (or changes, whatever we call them here), and I feel he's ready for the mop. Best of luck, Juliancolton (talk) 15:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  7. File:Symbol support vote.svg Support good changes. should be admin. ThePageChanger! 15:55, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  8. File:Symbol partial support vote.svg Weak support After talking with the user, I have decided to change my comment to support. SwirlBoy39 impressed upon me that he would try his best and that he was out for the good of the 'pedia. Good luck, Malinaccier (talk) 16:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  9. I am comfortable that you would make an appropriate use of the tools. Bstone (talk) 16:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  10. File:Symbol support vote.svg Support I have seen Swirl around on other wiki communities. As far as trust is concerned, he is trusted on enwiki. He has prior experience with the tools on a test wiki. He was even trusted to be a staffer there at one point. I certainly have no objections with him being an admin on a Wikimedia Project. Good luck! LeiaY 18:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  11. File:Symbol support vote.svg Support - Changed my mind, the points with IRC still aren't great, but you won't mis-use the tools, and so therefore no real reason to Oppose. Kennedy (talk) 07:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose[change]

  1. File:Weak Oppose.svg Weak oppose possibly moving to support - I believe SwirlBoy39 is really a potential administrator, but I don't feel comfortable supporting as of now. 1) He has only made 9 WP:VIP reports in the pass 6-7 months. That shows in activity and not much of a use in the block tool. 2) I also see a bit of inactivity in the pattern of your contributions. Your last 500 contributions last almost to April, which does show a bit of inactivity.3) Only 38% of your edits are to mainspace. Your user talkspace edits almost match that 38% at 37%. Well, concerning these, I don't feel comfortable !voting support yet. Sorry, but good luck with the rest! ;) Who knows, I might just move to (weak) support, but most likely, I won't. Best, Ryan†Cross (talk) 22:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  2. File:Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - I'm not confident in Swirlboy93's abilities yet. I don't trust the fact that he tries to solve all issues on IRC, as opposed to onwiki discussion (case in point), and I also feel he is too quick to try and delete legitimate articles (random example). The fact that he hasn't done that much work in building the encyclopedia also concerns me (Per Ryan's 3rd point). Sorry. —Giggy 01:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  3. File:Weak Oppose.svg Weak oppose - SwirlBoy is certainly improving. As noted above, he has under 40% mainspace edits, but this is greatly improving - over the month of July, that number is in the high 60%s, 68% for the last week. This is great progress, but I would need to see it continue for more than just the few days before the request to support based on the improvement. Only 2 ViP reports in the last two months does not show a need for blocking but 10 qd's in the last month does show delete could be helpful. The inactivity issue is also a problem -90% of his edits this month are in the last 5 days. This tends to show ramping up activity before the request instead of sustained contributions. Maintain the activity and focus of the last few days for a month and I can see supporting. -- Creol(talk) 07:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  4. File:Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - per Giggy. Discussions should take place on Wiki as close to 100 per cent of the time as possible, not IRC. Also, per Ryan, while Admins don't have to be article writers, it does help MindTheGap (talk) 10:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
    File:Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I don't feel comfortable having an admin who says they have "about 2000 edits" when they aren't really that close to 1500 edits. Honesty is important for and admin to have. Malinaccier (talk) 15:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
    Discussed with user, changing to support. Malinaccier (talk) 16:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  5. File:Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Not confident enough in this users abilities. Like giggy I don't like that he tries to discuss everything off wiki in an air of secrecy. As well he has shown very little activity in the areas like VIP which would show how he might react in potential blocking situations. -Djsasso (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  6. File:Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I just can't bring myself to support you per Giggy.--  † ChristianMan16  21:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  7. File:Weak Oppose.svg Weak oppose per Giggy. SwirlyBoy39 says that the IRC issues are minor things of little importance, but he says "ASAP" ([1]) as if there is a big issue. Also says on talk page that everything will be replied to by email, this is an even bigger problem as other users can't even log in (like with IRC) to see. As much activity as possible should be done on Wikipedia, for future reference. I assume that your discussion with Malinaccier that made him decide to change his vote happened on IRC or email, but as I can't see it: I am also slightly concerned about the 2000 edits announced at start of RfA - it is easy to check and that was around 800 more than you had. In an earlier RfA there was a similar situation with "I've been here for 2-3 months", when it reality it was weeks. - tholly --Turnip-- 08:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
    1. Oppose - Sorry, can't vote support. I don't think you have enough experience. The other issues already brought up, (i.e. IRC) also have an effect. Kennedy (talk) 09:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC) - Changed to support Kennedy (talk) 07:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
  8. StrongFile:Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - It is imho unfair to give any quite new User permanent sysop tools while three July-self-nominators were not given a try. ONaNcle (talk) 06:30, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
    I hope you realises how this will reflect on your future requests for adminship. —Giggy 10:54, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
    I've said no much more than we should do away with RfA and simply promote every non-vandal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.224.88.52 (talk • contribs) 15:53, August 1, 2008 (UTC)
  9. File:Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose - and is the above a threat? --Gwib -(talk)- 16:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
  10. File:Weak Oppose.svg Weak oppose - Sorry, but you are not ready yet. While you are most certainly improving, you have not improved enough to warrant the flag yet. You need to continue doing what I have told you and make sure to not nominate yourself and eventually, you will get the flag. I agree with Creol, Djsasso, and Giggy. Administrators have to solve problems on-wiki, and not over the IRC, which is something that you have yet to learn. Also, even though your activity is certainly improving, it is still not enough to make me certain in your abilities on this Wikipedia to be a successful administrator at this time. I need to see more mainspace edits (higher percentage than 40%, it should ideally be above 50%) and more edits in administrator related areas. You are doing a great job, but you need to continue on this path, and several months in the future, you will be ready for the flag. Cheers, Razorflame 22:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments[change]

  • Please create a userpage. Admins should ideally have a userpage, as a red link is confusing to new editors, especially as you link to it in your signature. Majorly talk 22:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  • By the way, you say you have 2000 edits? You only have only 1085 edits, and 155 edits that are deleted,[2] some of deleted edits are to your user page. -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 22:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
It says "about" 2000. :P SwirlBoy39 22:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
You said "I've been editing Simple since early February and have approximately 2000 edits", and it doesn't say "about" anywhere. :P Even if if you said "about", I don't think 1086 edits is "about" 2000. :/ -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 22:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Oops, mistake. Now fixed. SwirlBoy39 22:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
1126 total and 119 deleted - his userpage disappeared for a very short time, but it is back now. -- Creol(talk) 07:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Ah. I noticed Eptalon restore his user page, so I assumed his edit count and deleted edits changed. Thanks, Ryan†Cross (talk) 07:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
This is an important note: I don't use IRC for the important stuff. Just the minor things I have to say. Trust me, nothing on IRC is really that severely vital. SwirlBoy39 14:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Plus, don't we want #simple-wikipedia to become more popular? I've been recruiting users there. Please, trust me when I say I'm not that IRC dependent. SwirlBoy39 14:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
But the thing is, nobody on Wikipedia can know what happens on IRC, and there is no proof to what happens there, even if our most trusted users here say what happened on IRC, there is never any proof. This can be dangerous at times. Someone could be talking about things that might actually hurt Wikipedia. Who knows? -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 22:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Really don't be ridiculous. Perhaps we should publically log the channel if people are that paranoid. Anyway Ryan, you are frequently in the channel, and you know that nothing like that ever happens. Majorly talk 11:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah... I was probably exaggerating a little. But still, most of the discussions about Wikipedia that is important should be dealt with the community, not just on IRC. IRC is just a side place, IMO. The best place for that is WP:ST, or WP:AN if it needs administrative attention. But I've seen SwirlBoy constantly ask people to join IRC. If it's that important, why not just talk about it on Wikipedia? Not that it's too bad, but I wouldn't want an admin discussing most of the stuff on IRC, but more particularly having an admin constantly ask users to do so. I would gladly support an RfA of SwirlBoy if he improves on these concerns everyone has brought up. Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 12:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Leaning support, a great user, but the period of inactivity concerns me. Also, I would still like to see a lot more mainspace edits.--TBC 02:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Eh, there's no such thing as a "neutral" section. XD It's either you support, oppose, or leave a comment. -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 02:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Going through the archives, it looks like that decision was made in August, 2007, back when I was on my one-year wikibreak hiatus. I would have loved to have added my two cents to it, though. --TBC
I am no longer inactive. Part of the reason is family stuff... Also, my mainspace count has increasingly gone up. SwirlBoy39 14:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Why did you retire a few days ago?--Werdan7T @ 18:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
That's kind of a long story. I didn't want any more WikiStress, and was about to retire off of other wikis when my mind was changed. It's all straightened out now. SwirlBoy39 18:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Even if you don't pass, that isn't a comment on the useful work you've done to help the encyclopedia. Please keep it up! —Giggy 11:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Of course! You've done great things SwirlBoy. :) Adminship is no big deal, and even if you don't pass, we're here to build an encyclopedia. ;) -- RyanCross (talk) 11:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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